ASK THE NABA NETWORKQ Police butt heads with an actual ATF Agent making an official visit, when a neighbor called with concerns he was impersonating an officer. When the officer approached with gun drawn, and told the man to get on the ground, the agent replied with “I’m a fucking Federal Agent.” A heated back and forth ensued with the agent ultimately ending up cuffed and detained in the back of a squad car. As many Protectors are also current or former Law Enforcement, we asked, who was in the wrong, and was the manner of detainment excessive? To view footage of the full incident, and add your opinion, visit the General Discussion Area of the NABA Protector App.Leon Adams: At the end of the day, the ATF agent understands the importance of compliance. His ego almost cost him his life. If an officer shows up at a call where there is a plain clothes “person” in suspicion of impersonating an officer, it’s because there was a call made. The officer didn’t show up arbitrarily. Why not just comply and allow the officer to sort out the nature of why he was called?Also, if he (the agent) was there on official business, why not display credentials? (Again, I suspect ego is the culprit here). Because there is some weird ass expectation of compliance by the agent, the minute there is non-compliance, there is now an escalation that could have been avoided. This is a training issue.Kevin Ghee: “I’m a fucking federal agent,” says to me that he's not going to comply. Being in Law Enforcement he should know that the uniform supersedes everything until proper identification is made.We are all familiar with the OODA Loop. When this “federal agent” doesn't comply my initial thought isn't oh yeah this is how all federal agents reply to officers. My first thought is if he's an actual agent then he understands why I'm here so why isn't he complying? Then to resist it escalates.The agent was wrong and I don't think this was excessive on the police's part.Jim G: He approached with the knowledge that this was “possibly” a ATF agent ( dispatch) yet chose to “threaten a (to the officer) unknown male holding his arms out to his side, with one hand gripping a stack of papers, to let me see your hands, get down on the ground, blah, blah, blah.He never asked for ID, which having been advised by occupant of residence who informed dispatcher of same, who advised the officer enroute, would have been IMHO the procedural thing to do first.There is distance, the officer is standing alongside a vehicle for cover?, the “alleged ATF agent has his arms out and is ( IMHO) non-threatening.Ray Ace: For these to be law enforcement officers doesn’t seem as if anyone is trained in de-escalation. In this, the federal officer was wrong from the start. His ego led and because of the energy levels he established the officer met him there. Now I may have not acquired a target, but considering the info given, any reasonable officer would not see anything wrong in doing so. The agent bought the ticket, the officer took him for the ride.